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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@hidden.email> > wrote: >> >> I think usually it would be: "la fa smo'e fa smo'e", since it's not so >> much simultaneity as happening together that is important. > > The first problem is that this construction will not work for prc and blv. > > The second problem pertains to the semantics of "fV". In things like "la > (fa)R(ka) (fa)P(ka)", it's questionable whether the event/SoA "a" restricted > by R is really the same event in which everything concurrent in the same > world occurs. If I am typing an email for Engelang and at the exact same > moment someone is peeling potatoes in Moscow, or a frozen comet is hurling > past Pluto, it's not clear that these things are part of the same event. If > "a" can extend across space in such a manner, then what's stopping it from > extending across time as well? In those cases you would use cbn-, that's why I said "usually", when it's not so much about simultaneity as about happening together. I think in many uses of Lojban's "ca lo nu" simultaneity is not really the most important thing. > ji'a F1 F2 > => la fa F1 le fe F2 cbneka > > ji'i F1 F2 > => la fa F1 le fe F2 prceka > > ji'u F1 F2 > => la fa F1 le fe F2 blveka Sounds good to me. co ma'a xrxe