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> > > I see the triad "X says Y to Z" as most conveniently decomposed into > > > dyads strictly among X, Y, and Z, namely "X expresses Y" and "X > > > addresses Z". Here's the basic idea: > > > > > > {say}: X says/expresses proposition/narrative Y > > > {tell}: X tells/addresses/communicates to audience Z > > > > > > John {tell} Alice. > > > John tells Alice. > > > > > > John {say} he is going to the store. > > > John says that he is going to the store. > > > > > > John {tell} Alice {say} he is going to the store. > > > John tells Alice that he is going to the store. > > > > > > John {say} the story {tell} Alice. > > > John tells the story to Alice. > > > > > > Alice {inverse-tell} John. > > > Alice is told by John. > > > > > > Alice {inverse-tell} John {say} the story. > > > Alice is told by John the story. > > > > > > Alice {past} {inverse-tell} {say} the story. > > > Alice was told the story. > > > > Interesting. I've never looked into a system like this before. what would > > you say its main virtues are? I used practically the same in my conlang sketches, mainly because I wanted most words to be morphologically determined by binary structures: -i: "subject" -a: "verb" -u: "object" E.g., kuomi: eater / kuoma: to eat / kuomu: food. -- -- In relations like "John goes from Bologna to Paris.", I would have "John ({comes-from} Bologna) ({goes-to} Paris).", but I would have to define more vocabulary: E.g., if "fiena = comes-from" and "fiata = goes-to", then fieni: coming person / fiati: going person fienu: place of origin / fiatu: place of destiny The only difference of my original system was that I imagined that in a relation like "John {gives} gift {gives-to} Mary.", the -i "case" of {gives-to} would refer to "John with a gift", not only to the gift. It could be like this: kinfa: {gives}, give sth. kinfi: person who gives sth. kinfu: gift tuota: {gives-to}, {addresses} tuoti: person with a gift, "gift sent by a person" tuotu: gift receiver I have tested other verbs and I'm impressed by how sophisticated ideas can be expressed by synthetic vocabulary. -- -- I would use a particle to make passive voice, but the {inverse-tell} of this post now gives me the idea of changing the system to: -i: "subject" -e: "active verb" -o: "passive verb" -u: "object" -a: reserved to another function