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Loccan3 has never had any nonspam traffic, as far as I can recall. If John Clifford would kill it, that would save us getting the odd bit of spam from it. I am loath to close Jboske to further posting, because once upon a time it was very active (-- it almost killed me it was so active, and led to my burnout from Lojban activity) and I kind of feel it should remain available in case the general Lojban community reverts to regarding technical discussion of Lojban as quasiantisocial. It's possible that the people subscribed to Jboske but not to Engelang are interested only in Lojban proper, and not in engelanging more generally, and so might object were I to unilaterally subscribe them to Engelang. Therefore, I propose to do nothing other than encourage folk to post to Engelang rather than to Jboske on topics not confined to Lojban proper. --And. Mike S., On 21/08/2012 19:50:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, John Cowan <cowan@hidden.email <mailto:cowan@hidden.email>> wrote:
And Rosta scripsit:
> Can I propose Engelang, then, as the locus of discussion? That is, I hereby
> propose Engelang as the locus of discussion.
By all means. But I understood the proposal to be to consolidate Engelang
and Jboske into a single mailing list, since both are extremely low
traffic (54 Engelang and 70 Jboske messages since the beginning of 2011).
Jboske is at the moment the larger group (60 members vs. 35), but Engelang
has the wider scope (engineered languages, explicitly including Loglan
and Lojban), so I think transferring the members of Jboske to Engelang
would be the best course of action, and then blocking further posts and
members of Jboske, while of course leaving the public archives intact.
Since the Lojban list has already come to conduct all of its own non-reformist Lojbanic metadiscussion, that only makes sense. There is also an inactive group called Loccan3 run by John Clifford that could also be purged and merged if he would agree to do so. Loccan3 is currently unmaintained and overrun by spammers, but as often happens on Yahoo Groups, I am reluctant to leave because of the outside chance that something constructive will happen there.
If no one raises any objection, I would like to see all of these and any others I don't know about merged or invited to merge into Engelang, thus getting everyone in one place and blocking spam mailers. If the engelang crowd ever develops the need, it can always set up new lists as required later.