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Re: [engelang] Alternate attitudinals

This is an interesting system.  The Lojban equivalents are scattered all over the map, with msome missing, some organized differently and some organized the same.   But after the first few listed here,  we seem to enter new ground -- not things that we would normally say we express in some cases, in others where the _expression_ is natural but the analysis is suspect (or, more accurately, we wouldn't call that combination by that name).  Others are remarkably insightful.  I wish we had dhad this list around when the attitudinals were being set up, so this can go into the LoCCan file for doing it right the next time.
Lojban does have the three degrees on each side (though the sides are fifferent sometimes) and adds a neutral on the scale, which might be handy.

bfowol <pkroser@hidden.email> wrote:
This is a proposal for an engelangy alternative to Lojban's
UI/attitudinals, based on Plutchik's classification of human emotions.
I do not advocate that Lojban adopt this scheme, but rather put this
out there as a possible alternative for other incipient engelangs. In
this scheme there are four paired (polar opposite) 'basic' emotions:

                            joy || sadness
                   anticipation || surprise
                          anger || fear
                        disgust || trust

Each emotion may occur in varying intensities - Plutchik lists
three, from least to most intense:

           serenity/joy/ecstasy || pensiveness/sadness/grief
interest/anticipation/vigilance || distraction/surprise/amazement
           annoyance/anger/rage || apprehension/fear/terror
       boredom/disgust/loathing || acceptance/trust/admiration

There are also secondary (or 'primary dyadic') emotions comprised of
two other (adjacent) emotions:

                   joy+trust = love || disgust+sadness = remorse
        anticipation+joy = optimism || sadness+surprise = disapproval
anger+anticipation = aggressiveness || surprise+fear = awe
           anger+disgust = contempt || fear+trust = submission

Since each of the basic emotions can conceptually be divided into
three, 'primary dyadic' emotions (composites of two primary emotions)
could potentially have nine 'flavors', eg: love1 = joy+trust, love2 =
serenity+acceptance, love3 = ecstasy+admiration, love4 =
joy+acceptance, love5 = joy+admiration, and so on.

(I realize that 'love', in particular, is a very complex set of
emotions & relations, and several other analyses of it exist online,
including a useful one that sees it as consisting of three components
- intimacy, passion & commitment)

At a minimum, one could encode the eight primary emotions as distinct
terms in an engelang along with some sort of indicators for
"high/medium/low degree", possibly also encoding the eight secondary
emotions (see below) with distinct terms (depending on how compact one
wishes to make the lg), and perhaps even allowing distinct terms for
the additional degrees of the eight primaries and the different
flavors of secondaries (to a maximum of 24 primary + 72 secondary
terms = 96 total).

Bfowol




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