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RE: [ceqli] Loglan



li [Rex May] mi tulis la

> > Why not a causative of "learn"?  That's one less root.
> >
> 
> My only problem with that is the object.
> 
> Or I think it is.   As it is:
> 
> go xwe japanzo.  I learn Japanese
> 
> With what is being learned as the object.
> 
> so 
> 
> go xwefa japanzo.   I teach Japanese.
> 
> Hm.  Maybe you're right.  I was worried about the indirect object.
> 
> go ben zi xwefa japanzo.  I teach you Japanese.
> 
> go bepomo zi xwe japanzo.  I learn Japanese from you (helped by you).



> Unless, you think, the recipient should be the direct object.
> 
> go tem japanzo xwe zi.   I about Japanese learn-from you.
> 
> go tem japanzo xwefa zi.  I about Japanese teach-to you.

No, you had it right on the first example.


> If the latter, it could be a be-word.
> 
> go tem japanzo xwe zi.  I about Japanese learn-from you.
> 
> go tem japanzo bexwe zi.  I about Japanese am-learned-from-by you.
> 
> Whew!  Any reaction?

Yes, a passive could also work as in "Japanese is learned by you from
me."