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Re: [ceqli] Re: Orthography




On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:30 PM, li_sasxsek@hidden.email wrote:


> Oh, I like it, too. It's neat and instinctive.
> But here's the rub — If it's a single phoneme,
> then, logically, so should dj and ts and pf
> and kx be phonemes, as they are the same
> brand, all affricates. And if they are phonemes,
> they should each be symbolized by a single
> character — And I _don't_ want hats on these
> things. I'd never be able to show my face at
> Auxlang again.

<pf> and <kx> are not affricates. The articulation points for [p] and
[f] are different, and same for [k] and [S]. <ts> and <dj> may be. The
point being whether Ceqli considers this to be a single unit or not. In
English, /tS/ is a single unit, but /ts/ wouldn't be because it's not a
single phonemic unit.

Yes, well, if tS is a phoneme, dZ
just about has to be by any 
standards.  And the other
examples are, I admit at least
arguable.

Well, whether they are or not, two
questions arise.

1. Given the alphabet as is, why
can't I also spell Ceqli as Txeqli?

2. To be halfway symmetrical, I
really can't allow dj for /dZ/, or
question #1 will really be
unanswerable.

3. Am I then left with j having to
be /dZ/ to avoid that question,
leaving the language without
a /Z/ phoneme at all?  If so, is
that a problem for anyone?




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