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Re: [ceqli] Re: ti & zo



On 1/8/07, Rex May <rmay@hidden.email> wrote:

6.  Okay, here's the real rub:

How do we derive a non-name morpheme from a name?  That's where I got zo from in the
first place.

I agree that my japanzobol, japanzojin, japanzohaym paradigm is not necessary, and can
be replaced by ti japanbol, ti japanjin, ti japanhaym, but whereas Japanese (language) and
Japan (the country) seem like proper names to me, a Japanese (person) somehow doesn't?
Am I right about that?

An additional problem is that while the ti collapses ja and pan into a single word without
constituents, that is, 'ti japan" does not mean "go-bread", it shouldn't be taken as
collapsing japanhaym into a single morpheme, because haym still  has its usual non-name
meaning.  And given that 'ti's scope can't be shown to be limited easily, there's that glitch
there.  Also, there are a lot more 'things', like mountains, rivers, planets, counties, cities,

"japanzohaym" is more concise than "ti japan beti sa haym";
I would suggest keeping "zo" but maybe limiting its scope to
_only_ deriving compounds from proper names.  That is, any
time a name is used by itself you would use the "ti" article.

--
Jim Henry
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry