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on 6/14/05 6:33 AM, Jim Henry at jimhenry1973@hidden.email wrote: > On 6/13/05, John F. Schilke, MD <jfs.md@hidden.email> wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rex May - Baloo" >>> I'm thinking about the name problem. Loglan and Lojban have an awkward >> way >>> of doing names, which is why I selected the 'ti' to mark names. Now, I'm >>> thinking of having a bound morpheme that mark names of people or things. >> It >>> needs to be short. Perhaps ye /Ze/. Or fe. Or se. Se is now available > >> Of these choices, I'd like (on esthetic grounds) either ye or se. The > > Any of the ones with voiced fricative + /e/ sound OK to me. > But I'm wondering how much you've considered using prefix > vs. suffix for this? I use several different name suffixes for my > own conlang gjax-zym-byn - "ram" for personal names, "kxam" > for foreign language titles, "sqam" for family names, /wam/ for place names... > But, I've found that as suffixes they are occasionally inconvenient; > it might be better to use a prefix or prepositive particle to indicate that > a foreign name that might not fit ceqli morphophonology is about to follow, > and that even if it sounds like a ceqli word it isn't one --- rather > than a suffix that says that _what you've just heard_ is a proper name. I _think_ that foreign names are a different animal. Ceqli names will fit Ceqli wordshape, and I think I have to go at foreign names with a different strategy. Anyhow, I went for a suffix because I wanted to delimit the name at the end so that it could clearly be the first element of a compound. Now that Steve and others have pointed out that the 'country' etc. morph should go after the name-suffix, it's even clearer to me, I think, that I at least need a suffix to do that. Agreeing on 'se,' at least for the moment.... helense dan to dom. Helen is in the house. platonse pa duel dan helensehaim. Plato lived in Greece. Go bu fei bol helensebol. I can't speak Greek. platonse pa bi helensehaimjin. Plato was a Greek. -- Rex F. May (Baloo) Visit my website at: http://homepage.mac.com/rmay/ Great leadership training for boys at: http://afewgoodkids.com Strange language from an alternate universe at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Texperanto.html