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Re: Connectives



--- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> 
wrote:
> I can't stop thinking about this.  You know, we're assuming that 
the
> connectives have to be some kind of series that begins with 
the same letter.
> Not so.  It might actually be better to have more redundancy, 
without losing
> terseness. After all, I objected early on to the lack of 
redundancy in
> Esperanto pronouns.
> 
>  Let's speculate
> 
> e kay (esperanto)
> a  va (persian 'and')
> o  fi  (English backwards)
> u  seya (Spanish)
> 
> so:
> 
> noa xeva
> anoi vaxe
> 
> and then "ha" can correspond to Loglan 'i', but not be required.
> 
> And the Loglanistas among us can complete the series.  
Someone said that
> normal English 'or' (not both) is some kind of negative version 
of a
> connective.  Ah, here it is
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1037
> 
> Rob Speer said it's 'onoi', hence, "fixe"
> 
> I like these.  They sound different from each other, and are for 
the most
> part not a priori.  Easier to learn.   Kay is easy for us Esp guys. 
Va we
> can remember as the -other- 'and', the Persian one, that 
includes 'or', and
> its vowel reminds us of the Loglan equivalent.  Fi no problem 
for
> anglophones, and 'seya,' well, if you know any Spanish it's a 
subjunctive
> form of 'be' which is part of their expression for 'whether or not'.  
And
> it's the longest, so handy for the least-used connective.  I'm 
inclined to
> go with this set.
> 

I'm glad I didn't have a chance to check in until you'd got to this 
point. I think this is the best, by far! More natural, more 
redundant.

I thought some more about the 'modified modifiers' question, but  
won't have time until tomorrow night, probably, to discuss. Going 
to the Bare Naked Ladies concert downtown tonight with my son.

---Krawn