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On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 05:53:55PM -0600, Rex May - Baloo wrote:
> > cu -> ga
> > vau (predicate terminator) -> vjaj
> > vecnu (x1 sells x2 to x3 for price x4) -> ven (x1 sells x2 to x3)
> for this I had 'sel', and 'ven' for 'come.'
Right, I just got confused. It's "sel".
> > tavla (x1 talks to x2 about x3 in language x4) -> kal(?) (x1 talks to x2
> > about x3)
> Ok. Now what would the places be for 'bol'?
bol: x1 says x2 (idea/quote) to x3
> > melbi (x1 is beautiful to x2 by standard x3) -> bel (x1 is beautiful to
> > x2)
> >
> > xu (yes/no) -> kwe(?)
> I had 'kju' for this, from English name for letter Q. Did we decide that
> the word can mean 'with what certitude'? If so, it would be nice to use a
> kw word.
I wouldn't say "with what certitude" is at all the same thing. Lojban
has a separate compound for that, "ju'opei". ("pei" asks for a UI word,
and "ju'o" expresses certainty.) When you ask a yes/no question, you're
asking about the preja as a whole, and the response should be a preja.
> > fa/fe/fi/fo/fu (place tags) -> fa/fe/fi
> >
> > They don't use the word "gismu" up to this point, but it's another
> > common metalinguistic word ("root word"). Lojban's etymology file has
> > "geniuan" as the phonetic spelling of the Chinese source word, and
> > "korin" from Russian; the other languages don't really have anything
> > useful. Should Ceqli use "geni"?
>
> Maybe. Hindi has 'dxar' for 'root'. Of course, we might want that for
> 'jar'. Is gismu eqivalent to 'primitive' in Loglan? If so, we could call
> them 'primi'. Hindi also has 'bina' for 'foundation' and 'curu' for
> 'beginning'.
Yes, it's the same as Loglan "primitive", but don't use this word since,
linguistically, many of the words in Loglan, Lojban, and Ceqli are _not_
primitives. ("Father" could be "male parent", so it's not a primitive,
but it's still good to have as a root word.)
Out of the others, since words like "gismu" have entirely
loglang-specific meanings, it really doesn't matter how much mnemonic
value they have. Pick whatever word you want.
--
Rob Speer