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on 4/26/02 2:27 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > >> Zi ten ki te hon? You have which book? > > That doesn't work. "ki" would have to take a single word because a word > of any grammar could follow. Here, you'd be asking "You have ____ book?" > and asking the listener to fill in the article. Ah. Right. I see. > > ...which could be a useful question in some situations. (Are you saying > you have _a_ book, or the one I was talking about?) Lojban has no > equivalent. > >> Go kjam ti Dxan. Ki ti Dxan? Which John? > > The only valid answer to this would be "ti". Yes. How then to ask, with this system, what name? Or do we need to? I guess we don't need to. Zi kjam kida. Or zi kjam kwa. Would be the only time you ask which name, come to think of it. > >> Does this look like a good direction? > > Though you'd need another pinvor for the 'adjectival' use, the first > part sounds good to me. > > Well, "kihaj" worries me a bit. The Lojban equivalent is "xu", which is > an exception because it's in UI and takes any predicate as a response > (though the usual responses are "go'i" (that is true) and "nago'i" (that > is not true)). It can be placed anywhere in the sentence, and usually > goes at the beginning so that it asks about the sentence. "kihaj" would > have to go before the prevor (is "pre" a good word for "predicate"?) > because it would have a certain grammar. > > It also wouldn't allow for a qualified yes. For example, in Lojban: > > .i xu do ca klama Are you going (somewhere)? > .i go'i le zarci Yes, to the store. How does that work? Is 'do' the somewhere? If xu is applying to the whole sentence, I presume ca is the 'somewhere.' If so, couldn't the Ceqli be: Kihaj zi ba dxa? At what degree of certitude you somewhere go? Haj, go dxa to seldom. Certainly, I go to the store. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/