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on 4/23/02 11:14 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 04:30:50AM -0000, kevinbsmith wrote: >> I've heard this before, and never quite gotten it. Is this >> advice for people in the British Isles? It sure doesn't >> help an American like myself. >> >> When I see 'aw', I think of words like claw, and "aw, >> shucks". These are pronounced as /a/, not /o/. Instead, >> for /o/ I think of boat, hoe, row/roe, toe, crow, oh, >> dough, rose, pose, no, etc. >> >> Can you explain the logic behind this 'aw' advice so I >> can make it stop disturbing me? > > Different dialects of American English pronounce "aw" differently. > Around here it's pronounced pretty close to the pure "o". In other > places it makes the same sound as "a". > > All the examples you gave (boat, hoe, row...) are the "ou" diphthong. > > Perhaps a better description would be to say "or" without the "r". Yes, or the Russian 'o'. Or, better, the Mandarin 'o', which is indeed contrasted with 'ou' diphthong. -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/