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on 4/22/02 3:26 PM, Rob Speer at rob@hidden.email wrote: > > If vowels are separated by a glottal stop, it will prevent using a > glottal stop at the beginning of words that begin with a vowel or weak > (such as names and possibly other words). Plus all those glottal stops > would get very tiring. Do you honestly think that would be better than > Lojban's h sound to separate vowels (which I also think should not be > necessary)? Not necessarily. A glottal stop between vowels would, in the first place, but optional. To be used when needed. I don't seem to need one for most of these combinations, tho I seem to need one for ou. Anyhow, in a V?V, the second V is unstressed, and the beginning of a name would almost always be stressed. I don't think that wd ever be a problem. If the denseness of the Pivor is really that big a potential problem, I suppose we could just make it CV(V), and give up having CV(V) predicates. I believe you're right that it makes minimal difference that pi become pin, etc. If we do that, the available CV(V)'s are 13 C x 6 V = 78 CV's And the available VV's would be a maximum of 6x6, or 36, times 13 C's, or 468 CVV's. 78 CV's plus 468 CVV's = 546 CV(V)'s Add to that 6 jV's and 6 wV's, or twelve times 13 consonants, we'll have 156 more, to a total of 600 even. And when we go thru the VV's and eliminate some for whatever reason, we'll still have plenty, and can have a much more loose-packed set. Shall we baseline it? -- >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: rmay@hidden.email > Rex F. May (Baloo) > Daily cartoon at: http://www.cnsnews.com/cartoon/baloo.asp > Buy my book at: http://www.kiva.net/~jonabook/gdummy.htm > Language site at: http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm >Discuss my auxiliary language at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/txeqli/