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On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 06:06:50PM -0600, Rex May - Baloo wrote: > Me talking now. I like ke, because it is very handy and recalls the > various Romance language que's. The way we're using ke seems to be the way > Loglan uses lepo. Should we look into aping the Loglan system here? I like the idea of "ke", though perhaps for cognate value it should be "kei". But lepo (lenu in Lojban) is just one possible abstraction. I don't know what the Loglan words were, but in Lojban the main abstractions are: nu - event/state that... du'u - fact that... ka - property of... ni - amount of... jei - truth value of... (It has been established that ka and du'u are equivalent except that ka implies an empty slot that makes it a property. While a particular person's manhood is "lenu nanmu" and the fact that he is a man is "ledu'u nanmu", the property of manhood - the fact that X is a man - is "leka nanmu".) I see "que" as meaning "ledu'u" more than "lenu". Should there be other words for the other le+abstractor combinations? (This would make sense, because the article (le) really doesn't convey anything.) -- Rob Speer