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--- In txeqli@y..., Rex May - Baloo <rmay@m...> wrote: > > Before we go any further, let's vote on these phonologies: [...] > 2. Current idea: > > txu = chew > xu = shoe > meydjar = major > meyjar = measure [...] This is my favorite at the moment. I like the analytical approach. The missing <c> doesn't bother me any more than does the missing <v> in Pinyin. My feeling is that the phonology should come before the orthography. If there is no sound that requires <c>, why not just omit it? If the need to use the letter is overwhelming, then there are certainly a lot of possibilities. I've read all the previous messages, and seen [x], [q], [?] (glottal stop), and [@] (schwa). The first three are all reasonable, but I don't like using it for a vowel. But those three sounds are not all that common. I only know [q] in Arabic, and Arabic is the only language I know that has [h] and [x] as a minimal pair. Another possibility would be the palatalized nasal, [n^] (as in Spanish <ñ> {n~}). It's certainly no odder than using <q> for [N], and wouldn't violate any symmetry. It's also a fairly common sound, occurring also in Indonesian/Malay (spelled <ny>), Vietnamese (spelled <nh>), and a number of Chinese languages. Also in French and Italian, I believe (spelled <gn>?). It's worth noting, by the way, that many natural languages are not symmetrical in their phoneme inventories. For example, Arabic has /b/, but not /p/, and many dialects do not have /g/, though most (all?) have /k/, /t/, and /d/.