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Re: [Ladekwa] Re: 4th core argument?

In a message dated 10/20/2005 4:08:21 AM Central Standard Time, sts@hidden.email writes:


vigicampambe: F-d -> The sign reads something. There is text on the sign to read.
vigicambambe: P/F-d -> Someone reads (unwillingly) the sign.

A secondary focus could work: F, F -> In the event, in which the sign is there to be read, "stop" is there to be read.

This could do, I think. - What does Rick say?

Bye,
Stefo

Here's how Rick answered Stevo yesterday:

> Maybe not.  But I still think the verb should be "vigicampambe" or
> "vigicambambe", and the text could still be the focus of the latter, or maybe a
> secondary focus, using "tonke".  
>

I would use the F-s [-AP] form "vigicanzimbe" plus the case tag "cawme"
to introduce 'stop'.  "Tonke" is not appropriate here because it would
introduce a referent for exchange, comparison, or alternation.

The A/P/F-s form implies that someone else is reading to the patient.
For example:

   Vigicanza pa Lajonse jukay = I read the story to John.
   [Note the word order - patient before focus!]

The "-d" forms are not appropriate here because they would imply that
the patient underwent a change of state, and neither English sentence
has that implication.