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Re: [westasianconlangs] Sadi

On Sunday, March 21, 2004, at 04:38  PM, Adam Walker wrote:

--- Isaac Penzev <isaacp@hidden.email> wrote:

Adam Walker wrote:

I think more than
anything it's the fact that I'm unsure what the
difference between sin and samekh was/is and

whether

it would be important to C-a.

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Shin is always borrowed as |x| /S/.  Samekh is
borrowed as |s| /s/.  And tsadek is borrowed as

|z|

/z/. It's sin I'm unsure of.


From what we know of some misspellings in Mishnah,
at least as early as
in the 2nd c. AD both sin and samekh were pronounced
the same: [s].
-- Yitzik


Any ideas how they were pronounced about 600 years
earlier?  The Punic speakers moved into North Africa
long before the 2nd c. and by 2nd. c. (in my timeline)
Carthage is already speaking North African Vulgar
Latin.
Adam
If i remember correctly, in Phoenician (of which Punic is a descendent/dialect), |sin| (originally a Lateral-/s/) was written with the same letter as |shin| /S/, just like in Hebrew. However, it's unclear whether that means that they were both pronounced /S/ or whether, like in Hebrew, /K/ (i think that's the correct symbol) and /S/ were just written with the same letter but pronounced differently. 


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