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Re: [westasianconlangs] Raamaniyaan Grand Master Plan



 --- Melroch 'Aestan skrzypszy:

> Me too!  :)  I always end up doing this kind of thing when I 
> really ought to do other things, though...

Hehe. Shouldn't we always rather be doing other things?

> >Can Raamaniyaan exist in the same universe as Persian? 
> 
> Surely.  In fact it should!  I think of it as a Romance-Persian
> pidgin which was U-turn relexified. [...]

Interesting. I hadn't heard of the phenomenon. But it makes things quite a lot
easier, for sure!

> Raamaniyaan and Persian actually don't have the *exact* same 
> phonological development.  

Of course, but that's normal: the two proto-languages were different enough, I
suppose. Neither did Brithenig undergo exactly the same phonological
development as Welsh, or Wenedyk as Polish.

> >Next question (related to question 1): where do you imagine Raamaniyaan is
> >spoken exactly? Persia would be logical, but you also mentioned Russia as a
> >possibility.
> 
> Somewhere in a backwater within the Persian sphere.  I used to think 
> of the Soviet side of the Irano-Soviet border, and thus somewhere in 
> Turkmenistan. 

It lies open for you! As I said, I haven't done anything with Turkestan than
drawn a map, made a short description for the Wiki and produced a News item.
Mind you, the Persian sphere is quite large *there*, even more so than *here*.
In Central Asia, we have Tadzhikistan, and at the western side of the Caspian
sea there are Ossetia, Kurdistan and Scythia.

> > I think it has more or less been established that Persia speaks
> > Farsi, although I'm not sure how firmly;
> 
> Very firmly I hope!  An IB without Persian would have too 
> grave repercussions on both Turkic and Indic cultural and
> linguistic history!

Good, that makes it a lot easier. Actually, what I did after entering IB
(substituting Polish with Wenedyk) was possible only because the number of
participants was still very limited and the amount of work done on the region
nothing but a short description. Far-reaching changes like this become harder
and harder to implement, especially when it comes to huge countries like Persia
(or the RTC).

> Both would be a possibility, except that Azerbaijan is too close to
> Roman territory: the proto-speakers would simply have re-defected!

Pity... the Caucasus is a fascinating region IMO. I would love to "play" a bit
more with Georgia. Well, perhaps later...

> That, or even Khazakh or Uzbek territory would be a possibility.
> I would not want an area which was Turkicized too early, though!

You would still end up in Turkestan, then. Or perhaps in the Moghul National
Realm (created and then abandoned by Rodlox, if I understood him correctly). I
should add that the whole region is rather dormant. Unless that's what you
want, the Caucasian region might be more interesting from the perspective that
I expect some activity there rather than in Central Asia.

Or, if you should go for Qazaqstan, Russian rule would also be a possibility.
As you probably know, Qazaqstan is divided in two parts: the northern half
which is a republic within the Russian Federation, the southern half is part of
Turkestan.

Whatever your choice will be, I'm ready to support it.

Jan

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