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Zhyler (was Re: Howdy)



Salaam!

Eskribishe (=you wrote):

<<<Ah, one non-Turkic thing about my language is that it has noun classes, a
la Bantu.  Currently, there are seventeen (e.g., Class I: sensient, untitled
human beings; Class II: Hairy land animals; Class III: Flying, non-insect
animals, etc.).  One of the noun classes, Class XIV, is the action class.
So, if you have the root /us/, which has something to do with eating, then
/usnu/ is "eating", the class suffix being -nQ, where Q is underspecified
vowel: /u/ after high vowels, /o/ after non-high vowels.>>>

That's nice. Did you try to checkif any natlangs have class suffixes? I
recollect Bantu and North Caucasian ones. They have prefixes, but I need to
investigate more.

<<<Along with this, I have a nominalizer/infinitive suffix -(A)(l/n) (A is
underspecified just like the Turkish, so it's /A/ after back vowels, /e/
after front vowels, and with the /l/ ~ /n/ variation, Zhyler doesn't allow
/lVl/, so when that occurs, the second /l/ becomes [n].  The same things
happens with /rVr/, the second /r/ becoming [z]).  However, I've noticed,
after writing in the language for awhile, that I never actually use the
infinitive.  The verb is always conjugated, and for actions, I use the Class
XIV suffix.  So what my idea was was to delete the Class XIV suffix, and
replace it with the infinitive, thereby making the infinitive a noun class
in itself.>>>

I recollect the bit of Swahili I used to learn, and it seems like
infinitives there are just nouns - names of action, with nominal class
prefix ku-. So, IMHO, it's better to eliminate infinitive than a class
indicator... I would be more consistent...

<<<I don't know what the ramifications of this would be (haven't tested it
yet), so I haven't made it permanent, but that was my idea.  I was unsure
what it would mean to do this, though, and I was wondering if y'all had any
insight.>>>

That's why we are here!

<<<It's called Njaama, it's a tone language, somewhat isolational, though
infixing, and it works via this adjunct structure, is what I'm calling it
(the way a friend of mine here in the Berkeley linguistics department
analyzed Leggbo negation).>>>

Intriguing!
But I see we'll need Africanists here!

<<<It also has drawn some influence from Middle Egyptian, which I've been
studying this semester.>>>

Yum yum yum. One day I'll definitely reach the point when I seeze that nice
ancient _mdw ntr_ and do some experiments with it! At least it fits the
program of the list!

<<<So, that's it for me so far.  :)  Looking forward to hearing about other
people's ideas, because they always give me more ideas, and more ideas is
what I like.>>>

You're always welcome. But could you please avoid using HTML? Some ppl here
cannot read it. (I can, but I prefer palin text too.)

-David

Be-kheiro,
Yitzik
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
P.S. btw, words of welcome were written not in Arabic, but in Rumiya -- an
Arabo-Romance conlang of mine. It's very, very raw yet, still on the
experimental stage, hasn't reached any reasonable stability. So, a
correction: the second phrase should be read: "Somos fèlitzos berLo a-Ostad
aquí". |Ostad| is NOT "Usted", that's from Ar. |;usta;D| "master".