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Mind you, I'm not saying frerity would be an invalid word! Just that "fraternity" does not come directly from frater + -itas! Of course, frerity and fraternity might end up being synonymous; or perhaps one of them could take on a specialised sub-meaning. Fraternity could be the "state of being as brothers; any sort of confraternity of like minded men" while frerity could end up meaning the "state of being monks in a monastic community". Padraic --- On Fri, 2/1/13, Padraic Brown <elemtilas@hidden.email> wrote: From: Padraic Brown <elemtilas@hidden.email> Subject: Re: [romconlang] What would be your suggestions for a pure French word meaning 'fraternitée'? To: romconlang@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 1:01 PM I think the base word you're looking for here is not frater but rather fraternus, brotherly. Fraternitas is simply the state of being brotherly. The -n- isn't part of the ending *-nitas, but rather is part of the stem, fraterno-. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=fraternity&searchmode=none Padraic --- On Fri, 2/1/13, thomasruhm thomas@hidden.email> wrote: From: thomasruhm thomas@hidden.email> Subject: [romconlang] What would be your suggestions for a pure French word meaning 'fraternitée'? To: romconlang@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 8:17 AM A direct translation would start in 'frère', because it is the French word for brother, but '-nitée' might be a loan suffix. Else I would have chosen 'frèritée'. If Latin never had been a written language, romance languages would have much more such straight forward forms, like those I am looking for. They could also be used in far away countries, which early lost contact to the Roman Empire. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]