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<snip all the cool stuff> In Carrajina this is what happened: L > /l/ LL > /Z/ M > /m/ MM > /m/ N > /n/ NN > /J\ / Intervocallically (if palatalization did not apply) P > /b/ PP > /p/ T > /d/ TT > /t/ C > /g/ CC > /k/ B, D and G may have gone to /B/, /D/ and /G/ before collapsing with /b/, /d/ and /g/ or they may have just collapsed together. That stage of the language is not well documented; however, I believe there may be an Arabic script document or two that uses the "emphatic" stops in that script to represent what, etymologically, would have been original Latin B D G, so an arguement has been made for just that. Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]