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2011-05-14 14:04, Daniel Prohaska skrev:
In Vèneto<x> is used for [z].
I know, but what's the relevance here? Is [z] the expected outcome of -CT-? (Years ago I and a guy from somewhere in the Italian Alps discussed the matter of orthography for the varieties of the region. He wanted a grapheme for /z/ and considered _x_ on the Venetic model, though he wasn't very enthusiastic. He also needed to distinguish /ts/ and /dz/, so I proposed /ts/ = _ç_ and /dz/ = _z_, and then half in jest suggested one could use s-cedilla for /s/ and plain _s_ for /z/. Alas this was in pre-Unicode days (in which Yahoo stil lives, apparently!) so it was definitely not practicable, although it could be produced with LaTeX! IIRC we also considered /ts/=_cz_, /dz/=_z_, /s/=_s_ and /z/=_sz_, which would be nicely similar to Italian *and* different from both French and German, which was a desideratum. The only thing we really agreed on was that word-initial _ss_ and _zz_ were disagreeable. He did however adopt one idea of mine: to use _cj, gj, glj, chj, ghj_ and whatever he decided on for /s z ts dz/ + _j_ for palatal(ized) sounds where no vowel, or a non-front vowel, followed, which surprised me a little because it actually looked "un-Romance" in my eyes. I remember being kind of fascinated at the time by a language which at least was alleged to distinguish all of /k g c J\ tS dZ S Z ts\ dz\ ts dz s z stS StS/!) /bpj