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On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:26 PM, Anthony wrote:
> I've been rethinking the Lim1guam1 La2ti2nam1 series of fricatives. Here is my current arrangement, presented for your consideration:
> ch [tS] < ti, te, ki, ke
> zh [dZ] < di, de, gi, ge
> sh {S] < si, se
> q [t_s\] < [s_\t_s\] < str
> j [d_z\] < dr
> x [s\] < [t_s\] tr
Are these meant to be the same sounds as in Mandarin? If so, _ch zh sh_ should be retroflexed, and retroflexes are quite likely to arise from coronal stop+r -- rather than the alveolopalatal series you have coming from that.
> Which do you like more for the nasal level tone? lim1 or lin1?
Personally I kind of like the -m1 form, because it reminds me of Portuguese, but apart from Portuguese it's unusual.