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Re: [romconlang] Re: Which origin do the Italian suffix '-accio' and the Raeto-Romance '-atsch'?



Carl Edlund Anderson skrev:
On 28 Jan 2010, at 05:45 , Capsicum wrote:
That is getting complicated. I will pronouce '-aci' with 'k'
because of that rule in Italian that 'c' is 'ch' when
preceded by a stressed penult except in the word 'amici' and
because you say that it is celtic 'k'.


Though surely speakers wouldn't have worried about which
language the original /k/ came from, but would have (generally)
treated all /k/ before front vowels in the same way?

When reading Latin in post-Carolingian times, certainly, but
Italian -i is usually  actually derived from Latin -OS and -ES
(apparently something like /os/ > /oz/ > /oZ/ > /oj/ > /ej/ > /i/)
so that in early times there was probably some confusion when
reading (Vulgar) Latin texts, before the Carolingian reform
caused a conceptual split between Latin and the vernacular.
Outside the areas with the -OS > -i change there was probably
no such hesitation, though.

BTW the reason that _amici_ is different is probably because
the most frequently used form of that word was the *vocative*
plural!

/BP