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Yes, cavallo is really from the nominative. In this dialect, there are three genders and three cases. The three cases generally derive from latin nominative, accusative and dative. In the neuter of course, the accusative and nominative were the same. Anyway, now's the time to introduce the way final vowels and vowel + C changed in this dialect: final short vowel a > a o > u e > i u > x i > x final short vowel + m am > a om > o > u em > e > i um > u > x im > i > x final short/long vowel + t at > a ot > o et > e ut > u it > i final short/long vowel + s as > e os > o es > e us > o is > e final long vowel u: > u i: > i o: > o e: > e a: > a For the Vulgar Latin situation (in the 2nd declension), this dialect would have had: caballus caballi: caballu caballo:s caballo: caballi:s which became: cavallo cavalli caval cavallo cavallo cavalle The other forms quoted below are from: totus > toto > todo > toDo > too > tou ficatum > fecatu > fecadu > fecaD > fecà episcopus > epscopo > evscovo > iovscovo > ioscovo etc -Elliott ________________________________ From: Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@hidden.email> To: romconlang@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:57:15 PM Subject: Re: [romconlang] Third Try: New Romlang On 2009-08-10 Elliott Lash wrote: > Cavallo horse (caballos) > tou all (totu) > fecà liver (fecatu) (neuter) > ioscovo bishop (epscopos) > castaio brown (castanjos) > fomac cheese (formaticu) (neuter) What's the condition(s) for the loss or preservation of -U? Are cavallo etc. really from the nominative? /BP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]