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Let's hope there are no ardent French or Belgian nationalists on here! ;) Some thoughts -The absence of a strong France and Spain in this region is going to make history topsy-turvy and a whole heap of fun trying to work out!
The position of the border between them suggests the history of Borgonze in relation to Germany and Switzerland must have been similar to that of our France? Alsace and Lorraine snaffled from the HRE in the 17th century, then yo-yoing back and forth from the "Burgund-Prussian" war of 1870 to the West German reincorporation of the Saar in the 1950s?
The northern border of Navarre seems unlikely, given the natural border presented by the Pyrenees. If the French were more powerful, I imagine the mountains would form the border as they do here. If Navarre were more powerful, I imagine they would have spread further into Aquitania, rather than stopping politley at the Basque lingusitic boundary - Perhaps up to the Garonne river. Given the name Navarre and its territorial extent, I suppose the Basques are a sub-national group there too?
No Spanish unification it seems, so would 'Espagne' be so called under such circumstances? What happened to your analogue of Aragon? it occupied the region shown on your map as Espagne, and also inorporated Catalonia.
A non-French Corsica makes sense, as does linking it with Sardinia, but would it be separate from Italy as your map seems to show? Here of course Sardiania was part of the Kingdom of Piedmont (which would have undoubtedly included Corsica and (some of) Provence without the French around to control it), but then Piedmont went on to effectively become Italy, so what happened here?
The borders otherwise are essentially the same as ours (apart from Flanders being Dutch and English, instead of Belgian and French). However, a weak France, and a non-French Corsica, pretty much rules Napoleon out of the running. That would mean no Congress of Vienna in 1815 and, well, goodness only knows.
Plenty of room there for a TON of con-history! :) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Benct Philip Jonsson" <bpj@hidden.email> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:20 PM To: <romconlang@yahoogroups.com>; <conculture@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [romconlang] New map of Borgonze
I have made a new (and ATM definitive ;-) map of Borgonze -- the country in my ATL Lucus where Rhodrese is the national language -- and its neighboring countries. Hopefully it will generate questions which will lead to some fleshing out of the history of Borgonze. <http://melroch.se/lucus/borgonze/borgonze_e_vezintia_700.png> /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "C'est en vain que nos Josu�s litt�raires crient � la langue de s'arr�ter; les langues ni le soleil ne s'arr�tent plus. Le jour o� elles se *fixent*, c'est qu'elles meurent." (Victor Hugo) ------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send an email to: romconlang-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links