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Re: [romconlang] Re: Romlang problem in Terkunan



Hi!

spad0103 writes:
> --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, theiling@... wrote:
> > A small problem arose concerning the sound shifts of Terkunan: I
> don't
> > like the sound of -/ls/ at the end of words but it frequently
> occurs
> > due to a regularised plural ending -/s/.
>
> I would reduce the -ls in -is /js/, /jz/ or even -i /j/ like it is
> done in Friulian (a Rhaeto-romance language). The /j/ even turns
> naturally to /i/ after a vowel like u (where the u is
> pronounced /w/).
>
> >   ILLE    > (il)  ir  'he,she,it'    =>   irz   'they'
> il => is or i ("il, i" is used in Friulian, but it means "the")
> >   CAELUM  > (kel) ker 'heaven,sky'   =>   kerz  'heavens, skies'
> kel => keis or kei
> >   SOL     > (sul) sur 'sun'
> sul => suis or sui ("ui" can be pronounced /uj/ or /wi/ as you
> prefer)
> >   ARBOREM   > (arbul)  albur  'tree'
> arbul => arbuis or arbui <- the same word is used in Friulian (un
> arbul, arbui /arbwi/)
>
> I hope it can help you...

Although I will probably not shift ls to is or i, you did help me -- I
did not know the Friulian forms and now I know them, that's a very
good thing! :-)  And I am still not satisfied with my current system,
since it is partially irregular which seems to annoy me more than I
thought...

I already checked the pronouns in many Romance natlangs to see whether
anything is suited better that my current _il_.  So to revive this thread,
I would like ask for more help: what 3rd person pronouns can you think
of in Romance?  It should fulfil the following constraints:

   - plural = singular + /s/ without any irregular shifts
   - no geminates, so no singular in -s
   - no typical epenthetic consonants, so no singular
     in -l, -n, -r.
   - both singular and plural monosyllabic

Maybe a little brainstorming will help me again. :-)

**Henrik