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I think you're being inconsistent in your reference points. Native names or English names or ... ? Official or traditional? "Farsi" is just Persian for "Persian", and is currently being deprecated as an English label for the language. "Castellano" is likewise Castilian for "Castilian". I don't really think they're counterexamples. What is the history of the name "Urdu", which you rejected as a counterexample? On 9/22/07, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@hidden.email> wrote: > -- > / BP > -- Mark J. Reed <markjreed@hidden.email>