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Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@hidden.email> wrote: So, no High German language *there*, right? That's probably a good decision. Shortly after I started Wenedyk, I contemplated the possibility of Wenedyk and Polish coexisting in the same coniverse, but discarded that as highly unlikely. In other words, if you replace High German with whatever your language is called entirely, you can steal from it as much as you wish! Correct. That also solves frees the name "Teutonic" for the rest of the Germanic languages, there not being a language called "Deutsch". Low Saxon, in my opinion, is not German. Yes. Low Saxon to my mind is basically Dutch. Well, the otherway round really. > although I may have a play at that later. I suppose that means > con-politically "Germany" wouldn't exist, as there would be no > common national identity in 1848 or 71. Most definitely! It's amazing how much something as "simple" as language affects history. Presumably, with a Romance Hapsburg Empire, and a Saxon northern Europe you'd end up with Bavaria, Baden et al iin the Hapsburg sphere and perhaps Prussia in the north. But without the struggle for control of "Grossdeutschland" would you still have an Austro-Prussian war? Would Prussia absorb the remaining north "German" states, or would we see a larger Denmark, maybe Pomerania still Swedish, or Hannover remaining as an independent kingdom? Would there have been world wars as we know them, or would we still be living in a "Congress" Europe? Would there even have been a Congress of Vienna? It gets very complicated very quickly! Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]