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Cool. For now, I'm going to cheat and use IS and ILLE for my pronouns
with fairly preserved pronunciations.
This is what I have so far (I'm fairly new to using X-SAMPA so bear with
me)
Nominative Singular:
is, ea, eil : [Is] [eA] [eIl] - he, she, it
Accusative Singular
lei, la, eil : [leI] [lA] [eIl] - him, her, it
Dative Singular
jî : [ji:] - to/for him/her/it
Singular Possessive Pronoun/Adjective
sû : [su:] - his/her/its
Nominative Plural:
eils : [eIls] or [eIlz] - they
Accusative Plural:
les : [l@s] - them
Dative Plural:
jîs : [ji:s] - to/for them
Plural Possessive Pronoun/Adjective
lûr : [lu:r\] - their
P.S.
Here are some other of my fledgling words
buc [bUk] - mouth
cæpiç [k{"pIt_S] - head
bræç [br{t_S] - arm
dhûm [Du:m] - home
æmaic [{"maIk] - friend
fævlar [f{"vlAr\] - to speak, to talk
temp [tEmp] - time
claim [klaIm] - weather
xol - [SOl] - school
--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Collier" <petecollier@...>
wrote:
>
> You can safely keep some of the cases and both genders for your
pronouns -
> English does after all!
>
> I had the same problem. I cheated and dropped the IP from IPSE and its
> declensions. By way of an 'excuse', I decided it appears some of my
> con-citizens anecestors must have been applying irregular stress to
the end
> syllables of the pronouns to preserve the disappearing distinctions...
> probably around about the time they realised they couldn't unsderstand
what
> the heck they were all saying to each other.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steg Belsky" draqonfayir@...
> To: romconlang@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [romconlang] Re: 3rd person pronouns - Einglek
>
>
> > I'd think that for something English-like you'd be *wanting* to get
> > rid of gender distinctions, case endings, and other un-Englishy
> > features.
> >
> > -Stephen (Steg)
> >
> >
> > On Jun 13, 2007, at 8:17 PM, funkymonkey1148 wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the quick reply.
> >>
> >> I've thought about something like that (*ILLE-IPSE/*IPSE-ILLE) but
the
> >> results turn out too long for a 3rd person pronoun.
> >>
> >> Another thing I've tried is reworking the sound changes by starting
> >> with Classical Latin long-short vowel system (about 10 vowels)
instead
> >> of Vulgar Latin's 7 thus making it easier to make my English-like
> >> sound changes closer to the real thing. I also reduce the amount
of
> >> final vowel reduction. Doing that, I have much less leveling and
> >> retain enough final vowel distinctions for gender distinction.
> >>
> >> Still, I'd like any more ideas for 3rd person pronouns for a
> >> romance lang.
> >>
> >> -G
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Steg Belsky draqonfayir@
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What about compounding?
> >>> I haven't working on my romance conlang in a while, so i've
forgotten
> >>> what they look like in different genders and cases, but could you
> >>> have something like *ILLE-IPSE be one gender pronoun and
*IPSE-ILLE
> >>> be the other one? Or similar compounding of pronouns and/or
pronoun-
> >>> like words?
> >>>
> >>> -Stephen (Steg)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 13, 2007, at 11:35 AM, funkymonkey1148 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello all! Long time lurker here, but first post.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm working on a conlang that applies English-like sound changes
to
> >>>> Vulgar Latin (changes from about the pre-West Germanic era up to
the
> >>>> British-American split). It's not exact, but so far I generally
> >>>> like
> >>>> the results.
> >>>>
> >>>> In this conlang, tentatively called "Einglek," the many sound
> >>>> changes
> >>>> have leveled the verb conjugations (happy with that), leveled the
> >>>> cases (don't mind that) and have led me to get rid of grammatical
> >>>> gender (at first annoyed me, but is growing on me). The problem
is
> >>>> that I'd still like to have gendered 3rd person pronouns to
> >>>> distinguish male/female beings. So far, using ILLE or IPSE
produces
> >>>> too similar pronouns. Perhaps I could use IS, but then the
feminine
> >>>> accusative singular comes out equal to the nominative.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any other suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>>
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