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Re: [romconlang] Re: Conlingua comprehensibile



--- Jacques Deh�e <jacquesdehe@hidden.email> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Your message is polite and makes sense.
> 
> There is some hope in romconlang.

Get off your high horse! You're the one that came
here from outside and, having been very politely
treated, insulted my work. Cryptogramme indeed!
How polite is that, Jacques?

Quid est. It's not worth any further agitation.
If I was impolite to you, I apoligise.

Padraic

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jacques
> 
> *
> 
> --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Scotto Hlad
> <scott.hlad@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Certainly a language is a medium of
> communication. My Conlang is 
> also artistic 
> > in nature. It was done as a creative venture:
> can I make a Romance 
> language 
> > that would "look" & "feel" like a Romance
> language, but would 
> still be unique 
> > unto itself? My language is no more difficult
> to memorize than any 
> other and 
> > was easily adaptable to the keyboard. 
> > 
> > As many romance languages use diacritics the
> presence _or_ absence 
> of them is 
> > inherently artistic. The cedilla that I
> employ under two 
> consonants and the 
> > grave accent over one vowel are what make my
> language unique among 
> others, 
> > just as the brush stroke in a painting is
> unique to each artist. 
> (I have a 
> > painter-friend who has a tremor making his
> brush strokes 
> artistically unique 
> > in the world.) 
> > 
> > I would suggest that factors of comfort are
> indeed subjective. 
> Some people 
> > find a hard mattress comfortable, some find a
> soft mattress 
> comfortable. The 
> > very things you describe as lacking comfort
> are a comfort (ie. 
> diacritics)
> > 
> > Some people like the style of cubism and some
> don't. Does the 
> presence of 
> > those who dislike it make it any less an art
> form?
> > 
> > Art is not always harmonious. The most
> successful paintings will 
> have some 
> > sort of tension in them. If we didn't have
> the tension, we would 
> not notice 
> > the work.
> > 
> > Vivie la arte dea linegua,
> > Scotto
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting Jacques Deh�e <jacquesdehe@...>:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Un lingua, anque un conlingua, es un medio
> de comunication,
> > > 
> > > non un monologo autistic.
> > > 
> > > Factores de confort son objective: facilita
> de memorisation,
> > > 
> > > adaptation al claviero (keyboard) con
> absentia de signos 
> diacritic,
> > > 
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > > Le resultato es un lingua pure et es Arte.
> > > 
> > > Arte es harmonia e non es autismo,
> hiper-agresivita et insultas.
> > > 
> > > Cordialmente, Jacques 
> > > 
> > > *
> > > 
> > > --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Padraic
> Brown <elemtilas@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- Jacques Deh�e <jacquesdehe@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Inter-romance es un lingua construite,
> dunque
> > > > > non native.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps I misled: the conlang in question
> is
> > > > "native" to this region of groups --
> Romconlang,
> > > > Conculture, Conlang, Celticonlang.
> > > > 
> > > > > Inter-romance es diferente
> d'Interlingua, es
> > > > > plus moderne,
> > > > > ma vu es incompetente pro vider le
> diferentias.
> > > > 
> > > > It's easy to understand for anyone at all
> who has
> > > > had some Latin and some Spanish. Throw in
> a
> > > > little bit of French or Italian and Bob's
> your
> > > > uncle. To be quite honest with you, while
> I find
> > > > I-R very understandable, you are
> reinventing the
> > > > wheel. This is what auxlanging is all
> about, and
> > > > what it's always been about!
> > > > 
> > > > > Inter-romance non pretende devenir un
> lingua
> > > > > auxiliar mundial.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps not. However, the superiority
> complex
> > > > you've displayed is quite in keeping with
> the
> > > > usual demeanour of auxlangers.
> > > > 
> > > > > Inter-romance permite me de ser
> comprendite per
> > > > > occidental personas,
> > > > > regretabilemente anque per fanaticos
> > > > > hiper-agresive.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Al contrario vu besonia usar l'inglese
> pro ser
> > > > > comprendite.
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed. It's called "using the
> interlanguage
> > > > common to this group". You are undoubetly
> > > > ignorant of the fact that we are an
> international
> > > > group. The fact remains that English is
> the
> > > > interlanguage par excellence hereabouts.
> We're
> > > > not afraid to use our conlangs here and
> are not
> > > > miffed by yours.
> > > > 
> > > > Once again, since you seem to missed the
> whole
> > > > point: we are not interested in your
> language as
> > > > a means of world or regional
> communications.
> > > > There are already very fine and well
> established
> > > > languages that get that job done (though
> I know
> > > > you aspire to auxlangy greatness!). We're
> > > > interested in your language in so far as
> it's a
> > > > constructed Romance language.
> > > > 
> > > > > Comprehensibilita d'Inter-romance es su
> > > > > apertura, su sanita e su honesta.
> > > > 
> > > > We don't really care much about its
> > > > comprehensability, Jacques. We're not
> auxlangers.
> > > > You've nothing to prove here!
> > > > 
> > > > Padraic
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cordialmente, Jacques
> > > > > 
> > > > > *
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com,
> Padraic
> > > > > Brown <elemtilas@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Jacques Deh�e <jacquesdehe@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Un lingua incomprehensibile non
> pote
> > > > > pretender
> > > > > > > ser inspirate per le Latino !
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oi coul�! Fas ridieir a lis chraves!!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (Thank you very much! I wasn't
> expecting such
> > > > > > high praise!!)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Cordialmente,  Jacques
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Listen Jocko, before you make a
> further arse
> > > > > of
> > > > > > thyself hereabouts, please do your
> homework. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > One, this is not Auxlang, but
> Romconlang.
> > > > > Here,
> > > > > > we are almost entirely artistic
> conlangers.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > tolerate your auxlang in so far as it
> is also
> > > > > a
> > > > > > Romance conlang and you seem
> genuinely
> > > > > interested
> > > > > > in discussing Romance conlangs. Your
> typical
> > > > > > "your language sucks and one day my
> auxlang
> > > > > will
> > > > > > rule the world" attitude is not
> appreciated
> > > > > > around here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Two, it takes more than a
> copy-n-paste from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > work of Gode et al to make a
> "comfortable"
> > > > > > Romance language. It might make for a
> decent
> > > > > > auxlang, but you're obviously out of
> your
> > > > > depth
> > > > > > here, as we don't generally go in for
> > > > > simplistic
> > > > > > planned languages and the horrific
> politics
> > > > > they
> > > > > > engender.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now, you made the comment that it is
> fun to
> > > > > talk
> > > > > > about what makes for a comfy
> _Romance_
> > > > > language.
> > > > > > You were given a response in a native
> Romance
> > > > > > conlang. Let's hear something
> substantive
> > > > > please,
> > > > > > rather than mere dismissal. We've
> been very
> > > > > > tolerant and interested in your
> conlang
> > > > > without
> > > > > > resorting to dismissal. The same sort
> of
> > > > > courtesy
> > > > > > will be appreciated in future.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Padraic
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com,
> Henrik
> > > > > > > Theiling <theiling@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jacques Deh�e writes:
> > > > > > > > > I mean a successful romance
> conlang,
> > > > > not a
> > > > > > > cryptogram !
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Ko�??  ��ur lyng t�g er ��tt �
> latinn er
> > > > > bonn
> > > > > > > syskur pr� n�r
> > > > > > > > �eklyngar!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What??  Every language which is
> created
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > Latin is a good 
> > > > > > > success
> > > > > > > > for us conlangers!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > **Henrik
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Camifi, Marusi, teterani, tester
> fuferios
> > > > > asteros; tamenio
> > > > > > vem Persaecion empuriase ed ec pasem
> > > > > emduriase!
> > > > > >     --Pomperios Perfurios.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ill Bethisad --
> > > > > > <http://www.bethisad.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Come visit The World! --
> > > > > > <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Camifi, Marusi, teterani, tester fuferios
> asteros; tamenio
> > > > vem Persaecion empuriase ed ec pasem
> emduriase!
> > > >     --Pomperios Perfurios.
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > Ill Bethisad --
> > > > <http://www.bethisad.com>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Come visit The World! --
> > > > <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 


Camifi, Marusi, teterani, tester fuferios asteros; tamenio
vem Persaecion empuriase ed ec pasem emduriase!
    --Pomperios Perfurios.

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