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Does anyone have an idea how _Lugd�num_ (Vulgar Latin /log'dunom/) could become _Lyon_ /ljo~/. It seems to violate a number of Latin-to-French sound laws! I would have expected _Loudun_ /lud9~/. Based on _frig'dus_ > _froid_ and the usual vowel developments. Perhaps it is regular for Franco- Proven�al? Also, is Sagonna the real ancient name of Sa�ne or is it later? -- /BP 8^) -- Benct Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@hidden.email (delete X!) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If a language is a dialect with an army and a navy, of what language, pray, is Basque a dialect?" (R.A.B.)