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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Melroch 'Aestan <melroch@...> wrote: > > ... even in languages where apical /r/ is normal > there are isolated individuals who have exclusively > uvular realizations. In England, uvular /r/ is normal in Northumberland, and there are isolated individuals throughout the country who use it. I have it myself and find the apical form very difficult, yet I still pronounce /tr/ and /dr/ as post-alveolar affricates! The strange thing is that the uvular /r/ is so rare outside Europe (and Brazil): I can only think of Inuit that has it. David