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Re: [romconlang] re: Pfarlez-vus Rinech?

You've spotted that correctly - the phonology of what I've called Rhennish is High German. It's closest to Alemannic or Swabian, as I've generally applied the "maximum" High German sound changes to it, although as I'm a native English speaker and who speaks only standard German, I'm sure some Low German prejudices have slipped in! The "Rhine" moniker is more of a general geo-historical label rather than reference to any particular dilaect *here*.
I have sketched out some ideas for "P2" (Rhennish being P1), geographically located between the area where the Rhine dialect is spoken *here*, and a little further northwards and westwards, I suppose roughly speaky around R.-Pfalz and Hessen. My plan being that will allow me to produce something a little more Germanic - an incomplete secound sound shift of course, but a less restricted i-mutation, some different vowel changes and so on. Casting it as a minority language in a Germanic speaking country will give me the chance to "germanify" the orthography completely, and I dare say the grammar and syntax may be pretty heavily influenced in that direction as well.
At some point I will get back to it all, for time being I'm tied up elsewhere, as usual... 


Peter.
----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel prohaska" <danielprohaska@hidden.email> 
To: <romconlang@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: [romconlang] re: Pfarlez-vus Rinech?

Peter,

I like the idea of a Rhenish Romlang. I take it that you have based the
phonology on Standard German rather than the Rhenish dialects of German. One 
characteristic of them is that the High German sound shift is nowhere as
extensive as in Standard German. Only the very southern Rhine area, namely
the Alemannic dialects along the Rhine, have undergone the shift [p] =>
[pf]. All the other Rhenish dialects retain [p].

Another typical feature of Rhenish dialects is that [C] coalesces with [S]
in [S].



So, if you were to accept these amendments into the language that would
give:

"Parls-zau rinech" /pa:rls tsau ri:n@S/



Dan