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--- Jul�a <descubralia@hidden.email> wrote:
> hmm, where does "fieri" come from?
It's Latin. Fieri: become, be made.
> It reminds me of the preterit in
> Spanish of ser (and ir) [fui, fuiste, fue,
> fuimos, fuisteis(?), fueron] are they related?
Fu- is the regular perfect stem of Latin esse. I
gather from Sihler that they aren't related, but
he does admit that the etymology of fieri isn't
so well known.
Padraic.
> --- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Henrik
> Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Padraic Brown <elemtilas@...> writes:
> > > --- Scotto Hlad <scott.hlad@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to you all for answering my query
> about
> > > > estar vs. ser. How did French
> > > > and others get away without having two?
> > >
> > > Might it be an Iberian thing? I don't think
> > > Romanian has it, and I don't think Italian
> has it
> > > either. Of course, I could be wrong.
> >
> > Italian mainly uses essere, yes, but the
> perfect participle is still
> > taken from 'stare' ('stato'). Anyway, there
> are situations where
> > 'stare' is similar to Sp. 'estar': 'stare
> simpatico' means 'to be
> > likable'.
> >
> > Romanian is funny in retaining 'fieri' in the
> copula forms, but I also
> > seem to recall it only has retained one verb.
> >
> > And wrt. to French, I think I read that the
> two verbs become very
> > similar in Old French and then collapsed into
> one verb.
> >
> > Overviews for quite some Romance langs can be
> found at:
> >
> > http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/
> >
> > **Henrik
> >
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