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Re: [romconlang] Carraxan Easter -- day 5



--- Adam Walker <carrajena@hidden.email> wrote:

> --- Padraic Brown <elemtilas@hidden.email> wrote:
> > 
> > --- Adam Walker <carrajena@hidden.email> wrote:
> >  
> > > This is the only day of the year when
> Eucharist
> > > is
> > > taken in the home and included as part of a
> > > meal. 
> > > Otherwise it is a rite performed in the
> > > churches by
> > > the clergy and administered to the
> faithful. 
> > > Each
> > > family tends to have a certain Gospel which
> is
> > > tradition within that family to read/recite
> > > from on this night. 
> > 
> > But doesn't a (qualified and spiritually
> whole)
> > priest still have to consecrate the bread in
> > advance? Or is the father allowed to do this
> once
> > a year?
> > 
> 
> You're probably right.  In my church background
> any
> individual believer can bless the bread and
> wine, in
> fact, at many of the communion services I have
> participated in each believer consecrates his
> or her
> own elements.  I'll have to formulate a
> Donatist
> doctrine to resolve this question.  Can the
> father be
> considered the priest of the household for the
> purpose of this most holy communion?  

Unless they've diverged considerably from the
Catholic-Orthodox tradition they originally came
from, the answer would be emphatically "no".

> Since he will already be
> performing some other priestly duties in simply
> distributing the elements and reading the
> Scripture.

Some of these can be and are (*here*) delegated.
Communion, in Catholic churches, is regularly
distributed by specially authorised lay
ministers. The gospel and sermons can be
proclaimed by deacons, if authorised by the
presiding priest.
 
> And what about a widow, would she be permited
> as well?

To say nothing of a woman, though early on I
understand there w�re female priests.

>  I think yes on both counts, but this isn't set
> in stone yet.

Wow. That was unexpected! I would have thought
that in such an ecclesiastical tradition, only a
priest would be able to enact a consecration.

Even in realtively ideosyncratic Telerani
Christianity, only the priest can consecrate
bread for communion.

Anyone ought to be able bless bread, but
consecrating is a typically priestly function. At
least in the Catholic, Orthodox and related
traditions.

What tradition are you coming from where
individuals do it themselves?

> Thank you Padraic.  Your questions and comments
> are just the thing to bring this into better 
> focus for me. Interracting with you is quite 
> fruitful.

You're very welcome, and the gratitude is mutual!
I find your descriptions of C-a very interesting
as well as inspiring.

Padraic.


cucnasat-te-he is-ca stesteytar; salamar-ta is-ca testestentar; wact�s-ta is-ca nenemti; alistat-co-ta is-ca telelamtar; watar-ta-he is-ca xexewehti; xawi�talawattan-ta is-ca warkati...

From the meal he stood up; the clothes he set aside; the towel he took up and with that girded himself; water he poured out; the disciples� foot washing he accomplished.

[Divine Liturgy of St. Thomas, Teleran]

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