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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Padraic Brown <elemtilas@y...> 
wrote:
> --- jsjonesmiami <jsjonesmiami@y...> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I've been hoping to get some issues resolved
> > before my turn in the 
> > romlang relay. I can always make snap
> > decisions, but I hate putting 
> > things into a relay text that have to be taken
> > out of the language 
> > later.
> > 
> > Some of the issues are:
> > * The language has no name yet.
> 
> Jeneiriqua?

Well I did think of calling it "Generic" and then claim it was named 
after the Germanic chieftain. But it would have to be |Genaerca| or 
something like that to fit the phonology. And I don't particularly 
like it. |Saexón| sounds nice, but would be too confusing. |Izlar| 
would limit me to an island and |Granvallés| to a large valley. My 
*best* idea is |Scolar| (or |Escolar|), after the scholars in charge 
of orthography conversion when borrowing learned words.

> > This is a very generic language, spoken in an
> > alternate universe. 
> > From the standpoint of *here*, it's a mixture
> > of features from 
> > different romance branches. So I don't know
> > where it's spoken.
> > 
> > * I need to decide on a number of pronoun
> > forms.
> > The main problem is Masc. Sing. and Situational
> > of 3rd person and demonstratives.
> 
> > I don't really like the forms with |i| in them,
> > but that's need to 
> > distinguish them (some of them) from the
> > situational forms, which I 
> > also don't like; |est| looks like the 3ps
> > copula.
> 
> How about using Y (yst, etc); or est v. iest?

The problem in most cases is justifying the sound changes.
'Y' _is_ available, now that I've decided to use 'u' for [8]. But if 
I use it I'd like to use it systematically.
I don't see how to get around the |est| problem in a way that fits 
the language. Changing the copula to |ess| doesn't help.
The masculine forms I gave will have to be replaced, but with what? 
The regular forms would be |est| etc.
I'm considering adding an 'o' to the situational forms (e.g. esto) if 
I can justify it(*), or maybe suffix some particle.

(*) I'm using 'o' in the definite article, abstract form:
Mas.Sing. le/l/o (and maybe el)
Fem.Sing. la/lö (and maybe l or el)
Abstract  lò/lo
Mas.Plur. los
Fem.Plur. las

> > This is already enough for now I think.
> 
> We await more!

Good, I'm going to present more problems in another email. And later, 
some preliminary texts. Right now all I have is stuff like:
"Pellos buens filhes de San Giosafad!"

Jeff

> Padraic.
> 
> =====
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> e-z-y chunièn.
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> maxim]
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