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--- "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@hidden.email> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 07:35:17AM -0700, Adam > Walker wrote: > > I'm trying to choose between two possible > etymologies > > for "in a huff" and I'm dithering between a native > > derivation directly from Late Latin "inodiare" + > VL > > -icius</i> and an Old Provencial derivation as > above. > > At this point it all comes down to the "j". > > Why does the pronunciation of the <j> matter, > though? > It doesn't affect the derivation one way or the > other . . . > Of course it does. If the <j> in OP is pronounced any way other than /dZ)/ then I have a choice of how the word will look/sound in C-a. If it is /dZ)/ *then* it doesn't matter (and would, in fact, be impossible to prove the etymology) since it would come out the same either way. If OP <j> is anything else then I have one of my as-yet-too-rare borrowings from Old Provencial established. (Unless the OP sound is something that would force a C-a form too ugly to contemplate.) So you see, the sound of OP <j> is all important to this question. It is, in fact, the only question of relevance at this moment of my delirium. > I don't know anything about Old Proven�al, but I > would > assume that the <j> was pronounced somewhere along > the continuum from [j] to [Z]. > > -Marcos > As would I, but every step along that continuum could yield a different result. So I *must* learn the answer or risk slipping deeper into my present insanity. Adam ===== Idavi avins patorrechi djinerachunis djul Avramu ad ul Davidu ed avins patorrechi djinerachunis djil deporrachuni in al Bavilu�a ad ul Cristu. Machu 1:17