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I'm working on C-a word for crazy. I'm pretty sure there will be a formal word based on L. insanus and I'm likely to include one based on Ar. lawqa (source of Sp. loco and Pt. louco) but before I make a definite choice I'd like to know if anyone out there knows the etymologies of these -- It. pazzo, Sc. pazzu Sc. mattu Ct. boig Rm. nebun Rm. smintit Also, does anyone know the Old Provencal word for this concept? Adam ===== Il prori ul pa雝veju fi dji atexindu mutu madji fached. -- Carrajena proverb