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[romanceconlang] Re: different kinds of romlangs



From: Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@hidden.email>

"Tallin Ruman" or "Talina Ruman" sounds cool to me.
To be honest, "Rumano" rather evokes the impression that we are dealing here with Romance-based IAL nr. 437. But I don't think the name has been taken yet.

LOL, as I say when I first made Ruman it was not with any awareness of anybody else doing conlangs. I just came up with a name that meant "from the Romans". I understood that that was where the names "Ro/umanian" and "Rumansch" came from, and I just thought of "Ruman" as another one. On my website I am going to just call it "Ruman" because I will be representing what I created back then.

2. Languages derived from Vulgar Latin. ...
Some other languages are based on Vulgar Latin without assuming a non-Romance
substratum (Narbonósc (?), Ibrán).

That is where Ruman fits I guess.

Working on Wenedyk I constantly struggle with the fact, that my Latin
dictionary says nothing about Vulgar Latin.

In my case I learnt French and Italian at school, and a bit of Spanish outside, plus Latin at school. I borrowed a book called "The French Language: Past and Present" which told the story right from the changes of VL from CL. A lot of those early changes (of Gallo-Romance) were in common with Ibero-Romance, and Spanish has been much more conservative, so it has been easy to work that out. I don't know many details of Italian development, or of that of further off things like Rumanian. The orbilat website looks like a good start tho.

3. Languages not based on Latin at all, at least not directly. A well-known
example is Talossan.

Talossan looks like a good example of a ficlang from many European sources, like Esperanto but with 'naturalistic irregularity'. :) And an awful lot of accents.

4. Languages that are imaginary sister languages of Latin rather than daughter languages. Dan Jones' Aredos is an example, I believe. Personally, I am rather fond of Oscan and Umbrian, and sometimes I think it would be exciting to play
with them a bit.

Indeed. But how well are they known? I thought there were only some carvings in a cave or something.

5. Auxlangs, the vast majority of which seems to be Romance-based. This group includes both languages that eclectically base the majority of their vocabulary
on one or more Romance languages, and languages that simplify Latin.

There do seem to be a lot of Romance-based auxlangs. Why is this? I think it's (a) because Latin is hightly respected, and elements of it are contained in many languages, not just Romance ones (b) Romance languages are prominent in Europe, even more than Germanic, despite English's greater size globally.

Oh dear, why did I write all this? I got carried away. I must have lost control
over myself completely!

Not at all, it's been very informative.

Jan

Mat


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