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On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@hidden.email> wrote: > > I assume that the quantifier l in Xorban started as the quantifier version > of lo, a word with a long and tumultuous history in both Loglan and Lojban. Yes, they are essentially the same thing. > So, how is it that cats are black, even though not all of them are and not > just one is either? If we know the answer to that, maybe we can consider > how I saw a picture of a green and white polkadotted cat. Cats are sometimes black and sometimes not, that's all there is to it. Just like you are sometimes sitting down and sometimes not. I don't think we have discussed how to say "sometimes" in Xorban yet, but I think it could be something like this: la mlta je se sme fe xkra se sme fe na xkra A/cats(A): [some E: E is state-of-affairs in which black(A)] & [some E: E is state-of-affairs in which not black(A)] Green and white polkadotted cats don't exist, but since it's easy to draw pictures of things that don't exist, there's nothing strange about seeing a picture of something that doesn't exist. ma'a xrxe