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Jorge Llamb�as, On 30/08/2012 03:10:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM, And Rosta<and.rosta@hidden.email> wrote:"la xza gerka vska'aka" "I saw the dog" [...] I'm proposing a new type of predicate, possibly comprising only xz, that takes a "sentence" as its dependent, where the dependent sentence provides the (voi-type) description.I'd rather not split CC stems into two separate selma'o if we can avoid it. Couldn't we do that with a unary-operator instead (for example "ne" or add a new C to the unaries) "la ne grka vska'aka"?
Fine. "la ne grka vska'aka" does the trick, and uses up only one CV pair.
There's also the possibility of using stems like qam- (= 'am-), where qa- introduces vowelless name stems, and the name is taken to refer to something already referred to with a predicate starting with m- (ignoring any name-introducing prefix), like Lojban my.In general you can refer to things with formulas, which may consist of more than just one predicate, so the bit about the initial needs some more clarification (as does in Lojban). But I'm not sure I follow the proposed syntax of qam- anyway.qam is an onomastic predicate (qa- indicating that it's onomastic, and -m- being the distinctive part), which by convention could be used for on-the-fly naming.How about reserving all qC stems for that, so we don't need to modify the grammar?
We'd talked about two sorts of onomastic stems, one sort that ends at the next vowel, and another sort that ends at the next (@)q (writable using allograph <'>), and iirc the suggestion was that one sort starts with particle qa and the other sort starts with particle qu (-- I can't remember if particular provisional vowels were picked). If rather than have these particles you'd rather just declare all q-initial predicates to be onomastic, that works, but you're still going to have to modify the grammar to allow the onomastic stems that can contain vowels (and can't contain q). How about this: qC = onomastic stem ending at next V (can't be qq) qqC = onomastic stem ending at next q qV = onomastic stem ending at next q --And.