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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> lake ptfake tvlake > > = la sma le ptfake tvlake. > "Something, the one fathered by that, he talks to them." > "Someone talks to the one whom he is the father of." [...] > So, unless I'm missing something, Bake is a equivalent to "Ba sma Be". > Not strictly needed, but a useful tool whenever two variables have > restrictions using different arguments in the same formula. ...and both are bound by the same type of binder. What about when f- or b- are used instead of k-. Unless k- is put in a separate selma'o from the others, they should have meaning too. I can't quite see anything useful for them though. ? Bafe <formula1> <formula2>= Ba sma Be <formula1>fe <formula2>fe Or does -fe attach to only one of the formulas? mu'o mi'e xorxes