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Re: [engelang] Engelang phonology chat



Mike S., On 25/08/2012 23:41:
What about a compromise?  What if the form of roots were constrained as follows:

root := (S) (F) (P) (P) (F) (S)

P:= p | b | t | d | k | g
F:= f | v | s | z | c | j | x
S:= m | n | l | r

...and predicates were combined from one or more roots:

predicate-stem:= ( � root )( � root )*

but what happens to stems or C sequences that don't start with S or don't end with S or contain FF or PP?

Again, for reasons of economy, we want all possible C sequences to be valid stems.

Remember, I'm not anti-compounding; I just don't think there needs to be unambiguous marking of stem-internal boundaries.

A further optional compromise is this: The schwa-placement rule is to
be only weakly enforced. That it, it is still licit to insert or
delete [�] between consonants at will. In those cases, the correct
predicate is grokked from context.

I think I misunderstood. I was thinking that stem-internal boundaries would be signalled by stem-internal SS, not by schwas.

Interestingly, I understand that there are languages that contrast
/k?/ and /k'/ (by which I mean plosive + glottal stop cluster versus
ejective plosive, in case I have the symbols wrong).

I didn't know that. At any rate, in Livagian, /qk/ gives [?k] or (unaspirated) [k] (/k/ gives [g], /kh/ gives [kh], /kg/ gives [kG, qR], /qh/ gives [kx, qX]; and /kq/ gives [k'] as mentioned earlier; and then /kqh/ gives [k'x'] and so forth).

--And.