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--- In ceqli@yahoogroups.com, "Marcos Cramer" <marcos.cramer@...> wrote: > > > Those pages are a bit out of date. I'm doing current work at: > > > http://ceqli.pbwiki.com/ > > Thanks for letting me know. That's very useful. It might be a good ideo to > put a link at http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm to > http://ceqli.pbwiki.com/, because if people google "ceqli" they'll just find > http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/Uploadexp.htm. > Just did it. Thanks. > > "Old" seems a frequent enough word that I'd rather it be a reversal, so if > we > > adopt stira/stari, jun can go. > > Prefering reversals over "po" for frequent words makes sence, because this > way we can avoid frequent words getting too long. But then "stari" is just > as long as "pojun" and "jun" is shorter than "stira", so if we want frequent > words to be as short as possible, "jun" and "pojun" should be prefered over > "stira" and "stari". > > What would you think about using "pojunxa" or "starixa" instead of "gil"? > You already convinced me that "gil" isn't necessary, so it goes. It'll be derived from the word for 'old' plus 'xa.' And your point brings up a frustrating thing about reversals. The reversals I like best, of course, are monosyllabic, and in selecting roots in the first place I try to take shortness and reversability into account. 'bon' was the original word for "good, " for example, and I changed it to "haw" in order to have the "hwa" reversal. And I try to borrow, rather than coin, roots whenever possible. That's how I came up with stari, from Russian. "jun" doesn't reverse well. And sometimes I find just the right root, but it's already been taken for something else. snoy/syon are the perfect pair. The reverse is phonetically distinct, and it's easily pronounced. In a case like this, I sometimes go for a related root. For example, I might borrow E 'boy' to mean 'young.' Then 'old' would be 'byo.'