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On 1/24/06, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@hidden.email> wrote: >.......V = vowel, > S = semivowel > L = liquid (l or r) > N = nasal ( m n q ) > P = plosive/stop (p b t d k g) > F = fricative (s z f v h x) (there were no instances of > |y| = /Z/ in this version of the dictionary) > A = affricate (|c| or |j|, now written as |tc| and |dj|) > > Here's the list -- some analysis will follow later. > > 69 PVLV > 55 PVN ..... More (regex) symbols for what follows: ^ means the beginning of a morpheme, $ means the end of a morpheme. Some tentative conclusions: 1. There are just a handful of words with an initial cluster of three consonants: CCCVC splin CCCVC spriq CCCV spru CCCVC straq So you could have a rule that the only allowed three-consonant clusters are: a. in initial position b. |s| + a plosive + a liquid c. followed by a vowel, NOT a semivowel But maybe it would be better to redo these four words and have a simple rule that no word has three or more consonants in a row. 2. Of the two-consonant initial clusters, I see these patterns: - a lot of ^FL, ^PL, and ^FP - some ^PF, mostly /ts/ with some /kv/ (the affricates might count here too) - some ^FN (/sm/, /sn/, /fn/) - a little bit of ^FF (/sf/) and ^PN (/kn/) - one-off oddities like ^PP "pterna" (not in the current glossary) 3. It seems that initial affricates are always followed by either a vowel or (in a handful of morphemes) a semivowel. Good. 4. For medial clusters, I see - a lot of LN and NL (jaqlaq, pulmon, etc.) - a fair bit of NN (jonmo, etc.) - a little LL (berli, etc.) 5. Final clusters: - 18 instances of LN$ (e.g. "barn") - one instance of LL$ ("xulr", ?, not in the current glossary) - one instance of NL$ ("donr"?, not in the current glossary) - one NN$, ("daumn", not in the current glossary) It looks like you've eliminated all final clusters other than liquid + nasal since July. Good move! Now maybe you could prune some of those initial /str/ and /spl/ clusters, too?.... And what about those medial LL and NN? -- Jim Henry http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry