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Re: [ceqli] kinharzo kay to tri balu


On Jan 21, 2006, at 7:06 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


On 1/21/06, Rex May <rmay@hidden.email> wrote:


On Jan 20, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


On 1/18/06, Rex May <rmay@hidden.email> wrote:


gataympa, tri balu dwel pisa dom hu dan gasa bawmgu.   pa hay pamo
balu,
pami balu, kay pisa balubin.  do han dia, to ze balu kom dasa
komxo, kay


Do you want to use "han" in this sense?  Maybe another
word would suit for the sense here "on a certain day..."


Yes, and I remember now that it was discussed that we need a 'the'
word meaning 'a certain', but we weren't sure.   I hate to use just
'do dey,' because it sounds too close to 'dodey.'  Perhaps 'de te
dey' would work, meaning sort of like 'on an indefinite day.'


Is this a typo for "do te dey"?  I can't find "de"
in the glossary.


Yes.  Shd be 'do te dey'


I don't think "do" suits for this sense, and I'm not sure
(based on the gloss) how you mean "te" here.
Maybe you need another article-like particle for this?
Yes, I think I do. 'Te' just marks it as a noun, and I want an 'article' that means 'a certain.' 



What about "barn" (from Scots "bairn" and "barn"
in some other Germanic language(s)), replacing
the existing "barn" with "farmdom" or "farmbawco"?


I like that.   barn, barno, barni.   And farmbawco will work, too.




sur stol sta tri diwali hu bedan pori*.



We just had a big discussion about 'porridge' here at home, and we
decided that it's a generic word for that sort of thing made out of
oats or wheat or whatever.  So I hunted up 'daliya' from Hindi, which
brings up a spelling question.   Is there enough of a difference
between 'dalia' and 'daliya', phonetically?   I think not, so the
word should either be 'dalia' or 'dalya'.  So I opt for 'dalia',
three syllables, and the flower can be 'dalya'.


Hm... I think "dalya" and "dalia" are too close as well,
at least if you go with initial rather than penultimate
stress.  (Changing the stress rule won't really let
you get away with more vowel/semivowel minimal pairs;
it just shifts which potential word-pairs will and won't
be distinct enough.)
You're right. 'dalia' must be disallowed. I thought about 'dilaiya' instead, but even that is too close to 'dalya'. So 'dalya' is porridge, and we need a different word for dahlia. 



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