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On 8/9/05, MorphemeAddict@hidden.email <MorphemeAddict@hidden.email> wrote: > In a message dated 8/9/2005 10:44:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, rmay@hidden.email > writes: > Lojban is like Loglan in *most* respects. Only the words were changed to > protect the guilty. (Basically). My understanding is that Lojban started as a relex of Loglan, but their grammars have diverged over the years. Is that so? To what extent? > I know that JCB decided that one o'clock was a name, for some reason, and > I've often > wondered if that makes any sense at all. One thing I'm pretty sure of is > that one o'clock, > Monday, and January are _not_ names in any useful sense. > What useful sense did you have in mind? One names things that are unique > (or nearly so), and one o'clock, Monday, and January all are unique. There > is only one of each in any given larger unit. (In fact, I'm surprised no > one has named the weeks.) An even weirder name is "1995", for example. But > it too is unique. Consider how they're used in English: They do not take > the definite article "the" (except under unusual circumstances). "In > January" vs. *"In the January", or "January is a long month" vs. *"The > January is a long month". On the other hand, one o'clock recurs every day (or twice per day), Monday recurs every week, January every year. Week-day names and month names can be and often are pluralized, unlike some other names. 1995 doesn't recur, though. -- Jim Henry http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/review/log.htm