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On 6/15/05, Rex May <rmay@hidden.email> wrote: > To summarize, then, names will behave like pronouns in Ceqli. That > is, there need be no 'ti' the-word to set them off. They will be > marked by a bound morpheme suffix. We need to have a concensus on > what that suffix will be. Using so-far unassigned CV's, we have -se > -zo is also available > I'm slightly inclined towards -zo, largely because the syllable will > very often be embedded between the name and another compounding > element, and it seems to be easier to hear. I like -zo slightly better than -se; your earlier idea of /Ze/, "ye", was pretty good too. But I don't see a big difference among them. > The problem is with multi-element names like kraun sulkizo. Should > it be kraunzo sulkizo, or do we need a spoken hyphen to hook them > together? I'm inclined to the hyphen, so we won't wonder if we're > dealing with two names or one. Also a problem with names like South > Korea. Or Never-Never Land, or Big Rock Candy Mountain. Again, personally I incline to different suffixes to mark personal names, family names, place names.... But you seem inclined to mark the type of thing named by the name with a separate common noun morpheme, which makes sense too. So I would go with the spoken hyphen; it seems to fit the patterns of ceqli better. > So I'm proposing -zo as the name suffix, and -se- as the hyphen. How > about it? > > And I think foreign names should simply be bracketed just like any > foreign word. For that, we need a CV and a beCV. After being > bracketed, it can take the -zo and proceed as a name as tho it were > Ceqli. > > And, we need a smooth way to handle Latin nomenclature, as in Homo > Sapiens. Maybe more bracketing CV's Probably one pair of particles to bracket foreign proper names, and another to mark foreign common nouns -- not just Latin species names, but anything else (clothing, foodstuff, game) that's too specific to one culture to need a ceqli form with an official lexicon entry: sporran, kimono, grits, Parcheesi, .... -- Jim Henry http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/review/log.htm