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On 5/30/05, Rex May <rmay@hidden.email> wrote: > So why not spell it "himl", "fiqr"? I think that in the case of the > German word, it's actually arguable as to whether it's one > syllable or two. That is, the -el, -er syllable is minimal (to my ear, > anyway), and can be considered so faint ast to not be counted as > a syllable at all. OK, but you're complicating the phonotactics again. Some IALs allow speakers to insert an unstressed schwa where they have trouble with particular consonant clusters (or syllabic liquids and nasals, as here). -- Jim Henry http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/review/log.htm